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Comment on: "Nonlinear quantum effects in electromagnetic radiation of a vortex electron"

This paper refutes Karlovets and Pupasov-Maximov's criticism of Remez et al.'s experimental findings on vortex electron radiation by demonstrating the validity of the experimental regime and clarifying theoretical limitations regarding electron post-selection, thereby affirming the value of their work for studying spontaneous emission beyond the paraxial approximation.

Original authors: Aviv Karnieli, Roei Remez, Ido Kaminer, Ady Arie

Published 2026-01-30
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Original authors: Aviv Karnieli, Roei Remez, Ido Kaminer, Ady Arie

Original paper licensed under CC BY 4.0 (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/). This is an AI-generated explanation of the paper below. It is not written or endorsed by the authors. For technical accuracy, refer to the original paper. Read full disclaimer

The Big Picture: A Scientific "He Said, She Said"

Imagine two groups of scientists are arguing about a magic trick involving a single electron (a tiny particle of electricity) and the light it emits.

  • Group A (The Authors of this paper): They did an experiment in 2019. They claim they proved that the electron acts like a "quantum wave" that collapses into a single point when it emits light, behaving like a tiny, localized bullet.
  • Group B (Karlovets and Pupasov-Maximov): They published a paper in 2021 criticizing Group A. They argued that Group A's experiment was flawed because the light wasn't measured far enough away. They suggested the results could actually be explained by "old-school" physics where the electron is just a fuzzy, spread-out cloud of charge.

This paper is Group A's rebuttal. They are saying: "You are wrong. Our experiment was valid, our math was right, and Group B made two specific mistakes that led them to the wrong conclusion."


Mistake #1: The "Fuzzy Cloud" vs. The "Sharp Point" (The Distance Argument)

The Criticism:
Group B argued that to see the true nature of the light, you need to be very far away (the "far-field"). They looked at the width of the entire electron beam (which was quite wide, like a thick hose) and calculated that the detectors were too close to be in the "far-field." They claimed that because the detectors were "too close," the light patterns looked weird, and Group A couldn't prove their quantum theory.

The Rebuttal (The Analogy of the Choir):
Group A says Group B used the wrong ruler.

Imagine a massive choir (the electron beam) standing on a stage. The choir is huge (2 meters wide). However, the singers aren't all singing the same note at the same time; they are singing in small, independent groups of 10 people (the "coherence length").

  • Group B's Logic: They looked at the entire 2-meter stage and said, "To hear the sound clearly, you need to stand 100 meters away." Since the audience was only 5 meters away, they claimed the sound would be muddy and confusing.
  • Group A's Correction: Group A says, "Wait! The singers in each small group of 10 are perfectly in sync. The interference pattern (the 'music') is created by these small groups, not the whole stage. To hear the pattern of a 10-person group, you only need to stand 1 meter away."

The Result:
Because the "small groups" (the quantum wave nature of a single electron) are tiny (micrometers), the detectors were actually far enough away to see the true pattern. Group B mistakenly measured the distance based on the whole beam, not the individual electron's wave.

The Simulation Proof:
The authors ran computer simulations (like a video game physics engine) to prove this. They showed that even if you are "close" to the whole beam, if you are "far" from the tiny wave-packet of a single electron, the light behaves exactly as the quantum theory predicts. The "fuzzy cloud" (semiclassical) theory predicts the light should spread out differently, but the experiment showed it didn't.


Mistake #2: The "Post-Selection" Trap (The Coin Flip Analogy)

The Criticism:
Group B derived a mathematical formula that suggested the light should depend on the shape of the electron's wave. They claimed Group A's experiment didn't match their formula.

The Rebuttal (The Analogy of the Coin Flip):
Group A says Group B's formula only works in a very specific, rare scenario that didn't happen in the experiment.

Imagine you flip a coin.

  • Scenario A (The Experiment): You flip a coin, and you just look at the result (Heads or Tails). You don't care what happened to the coin after it landed. You just count the Heads and Tails. In this case, the "shape" of your hand throwing the coin doesn't change the final count of Heads and Tails. This is how standard light detectors work (Cathodoluminescence).
  • Scenario B (Group B's Formula): Group B's math assumes you flip the coin, and then you magically check exactly where the coin landed and only count the results where the coin landed on its edge. This is called "post-selection." If you only look at the rare "edge" cases, the way you threw the coin suddenly matters a lot.

The Reality:
In the experiment, they only measured the light. They did not measure the electron after it emitted the light. Because they didn't "post-select" (filter) the electrons, the quantum "entanglement" between the electron and the light gets washed out. The light becomes independent of the electron's shape.

Group A argues that Group B's formula is correct only if you do this rare "post-selection" trick. Since Group B didn't mention this condition clearly, they wrongly applied their formula to Group A's experiment.


The Conclusion: Who Won?

Group A concludes that:

  1. The Experiment was Valid: The measurements were taken at the right distance to see the quantum effects.
  2. The Quantum Theory Wins: The data proves that the electron acts like a point particle that "collapses" when it emits light, not a fuzzy cloud.
  3. Group B's Paper is Still Useful (with a caveat): If Group B clarifies that their math only applies when you "post-select" the electron (a very specific, advanced setup), their paper is actually a valuable contribution to physics. It offers new math for those specific, rare situations.

In short: Group A fixed the misunderstanding about the distance and clarified the rules of the game. Once those rules are clear, the original experiment stands strong, proving the "quantum wave nature" of free electrons.

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